I sadly put the wicked good slippers back into their box and sent them back to LL.Since I have worn this brand from many years I was looking forward to that day when the shoes would arrive and I could try on my new cozy ones. But, the new slippers felt all wrong, the stitching was rough on my feet and the lining didn't feel at all good. The soles were not put on well and overall, I was disappointed. So I sent them back. I will get a pair locally. In the "old days" the shoes were American made, perhaps they will be again.